Still beginning, still learning || 🎤 Ep 20: Fitting Out at Work with Emanuele Mazzanti


Hi Reader,

Twenty episodes into "Unprofessionalism" and I still cannot even grasp the edges of the topic! It's privilege, it's self-expression, self-permission, ownership, corporate rebellion.

There is no real subject matter expertise to explore on Unprofessionalism. The guest and their personal story are the focus, although each one brings expertise that we explore through the lens of unprofessionalism. As the podcast host, I am continuously making decisions whether to dive deeper into the guest's personal story or deeper into the meaning for the work they do. And often I doubt the choices I make.

So while there is beauty in this undefined space full of unbeaten tracks, there is frustration. Lots of it! When I listen back to some of the conversations, and only notice after the fact that I could have asked a follow-up question, slowed down, explored different directions, listened more.

As it turns out: Speaking about the beginner's mindset and committing to beginning are two separate things. So here I am. Still beginning and still learning. But listening back to the recordings and being my own judge will only get me so far. What would be much better is to hear directly from you, the audience.

20 episodes into Unprofessionalism: How are we doing so far?
If you have listened to at least half an episode, please hit reply and share one word of feedback.

🎤 Waiting for you on the Unprofessionalism podcast:

Emanuele Mazzanti is a day one rule-breaker. When he moved to EY Italy, his boss asked to be called "Dottore." He noticed the distance being created and suggested, politely, that they drop the formalities and just use first names. Surprisingly, the answer was yes.

That’s a pattern he kept running into. Different countries and roles but the same kind of distance disguised as formality to keep things simple and boost performance. In consultancy, where everyone is climbing the same ladder, connection becomes a liability as only one person can move up at a time.

The irony is that the performance everyone’s after lives exactly in the connection they've learned to avoid. That’s the space Emanuele keeps moving towards for nearly two decades. Sometimes the barriers are pushed and sometimes they push him. His solution? Love - the deepest form of connection.

Emanuele firmly believes that love belongs at work and is a core leadership trait and nothing will inspire people to do and be their best at work like feeling loved.

🎧 Click here to listen to the interview

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That's it from my side. I hope to see you next week!

Myriam

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